Die Traumer (The Dreamers) [Blu-ray]
P**P
Underrated movie, fantastic 4k transfer!
This movie doesn’t get mentioned all that much but it’s definitely worth a watch, and it’s unfortunate that it never got a high definition release in the US. However both discs are region free and I’m so glad I ended up getting it because the new 4k restoration looks fantastic! The blu ray transfer looks a bit too saturated at times but the colors of the 4k disc are so much more natural and immersive. If you’ve only owned this on dvd and you like the movie then I would highly recommend getting this release!
A**R
Arrived unbroken.
Naughty and Eva G.
L**D
For those who can appreciate it, a real gem.
This is an amazing movie. If you have been reading any of these reviews I am sure it goes without saying that it is not for everyone so I won't dwell on that. I will address the nudity/sexual aspects of the film up front by simply repeating what many of the other reviews have said: there is certainly nudity, openly sexual scenes, and a variety of taboos explored in varying degrees, but they are presented rather matter-of-fact and not with strong eroticism (though, I admit that for any red-blooded, heterosexual male, even if she were just sorting socks or filling out a tax return, it would be hard to judge any scene with a nude Eva Green as "not erotic").I believe that the sex primarily reinforces the innocence, or naivete, of the twins' -- Isabelle and Theo's -- private universe where they, as spoiled child-adults, endulge any desire or whim. This is in contrast to the anger and intensity which dominates their pretense at social-activism, driven by simple-minded reaction (war -- bad) to the turbulent times (the 60's). But they are just two sides to the same coin -- they truly are "Dreamers", detached from reality by a wall of denial. When anything happens which forces them to deal with reality, such as having the true nature of their relationship discovered by their parents, the results are not pretty. (Actually, it is a little ambitious to suggest that their parents discovered the true nature of their relationship when it isn't clear that even they understand the true nature of this confusing mix of polyamory, bisexuality, incest, voyeurism, fraternity, obsession, and just a hint of sadomasochism.) Matthew, the young American student whom they "adopt," is torn between the seductive nature of their universe (including his attraction to and love of Isabelle and Theo) and his own grounding in reality -- though he is as young as they are, he possesses a maturity and true thoughtulness which they lack. So long as they all remain primarily isolated in their apartment, their private universe mostly prevails, but in the end their differences in the "real" world is what tears them apart.The acting is superb throughout -- there is some very impressive work here. The cinematography is also excellent and the use of clips from classic films is brilliant, reinforcing not only the establishment of the characters' love of cinema but also the degree to which these "dreamers" are lost within their fantasies. The ending is amazing and rather abrupt. (mild spoiler alert) It will likely leave most viewers feeling a bit unfulfilled but that fits the movie. The ending likely would leave the characters feeling unfulfilled -- ultimately, no matter how much he wanted to be a part of Isabelle and Theo's universe, Matthew could never remain there. When reality came crashing through, the characters acted according to their nature and their differences severed the bond for good.Some have complained that the film is too slow. It is a bit slow but when doing a character-study, how much "study" is too much? How much is enough? I, personally, was riveted throughout. Those who were not riveted, likely weren't really connecting with the movie anyway and more aggessive editing likely would not have changed that. The movie is not for everyone.The only other Bernardo Bertolucci movie I have seen is "Last Tango in Paris" about which I was not very enthusiastic. It was an impressive film but ultimately I could not buy into the story -- I found the characters and situations ultimately unbelievable and that made all the good things in it difficult to appreciate. The same thing could have happened here -- these characters certainly are not like anyone I know or would even imagine but the acting, the script, and the directing drew me in -- I rather imagine that for many, that was not enough, and they wound up disliking the film as a result. I can't explain why it worked for me and I sure can't say whether it will work for you but the bottom line is, it worked for me. I enjoyed this movie.
V**N
Voyeuristic Indulgence
At the end of The Dreamers, I was not sure what to think. What had played out before me was at once sensual, sexual, erotic--but not overly so--sinfully voyeuristic, and politically charged. It was a study in excess, of youthful indulgence and sexual exploration, of idealistic fervor both realized and unfulfilled. It was beautiful and ugly, titillating yet repulsive. And in the end I was drawn to the movie, a voyeur peering in on the lives of three humans as their world narrowed to just the three, where nothing else matter but the pleasure and pain they could inflict on one another in the name of love.The StoryBased on the novel The Holy Innocents: A Romance by Gilbert Adair, who also wrote the screenplay, The Dreamers is the latest film by renowned and controversial Italian director Bernardo Bertolucci; it is in fact his 22nd offering in a long and distinguished career. Bertolucci has described The Dreamers as being about three utopias centered on his memories of May 1968: political, cinematic and sexual.The Dreamers open on Paris, beautiful, sensual, romantic Paris, in 1968 when it seemed the whole world was on fire. The month is February, and a young American, Matthew, portrayed by Michael Pitt, meets French twins Théo portrayed by newcomer Louis Garrel, and Isabelle portrayed with soft sensuality by newcomer Eva Green, at the Cinémathèque Francaise during the Langlois Affair a demonstration against the firing of its leader, Henri Langlois. The Langlois Affair was widely heralded as a forerunner of the May uprising by French students. In a wonderful elegiac tableau, Bertolucci splices together archive shots of French director Jean-Pierre Léaud giving a passionate speech in defense of Langlois, with his own shots of Léaud today reproducing the same event.Matthew, a regular at the Cinémathèque has had his eye on Isabelle for quite some time. He has been watching her almost daily through the semi-dark of the packed auditorium. So Matthew is thrilled with the pair invite him to dinner in the family apartment, where he meets their English mother (Anna Chancellor) and French father (Robin Renucci), a noted author.The twins are taken with Matthew and after their parents leave for places unknown, they invite him to stay in the apartment with them, and the new three friends begin a life of reclusive bohemia. At first they just discuss politics and play games like film-buff, but increasingly as Matthew is drawn deeper into their world, the twins begin to play sexual games as well. Matthew discovers that the twins sleep nude together and during a round of film-buff in which Théo loses, Isabelle makes him masturbate in front of her and Matthew, who is taken aback. Later, during another round of film-buff, Théo wins and sensing Matthew's barely masked attraction to Isabelle, orders the two to have sex in front of him. At first Matthew resists; his American sensibilities can't imagine such a thing, but the sight of a now naked Isabelle excites him and he gives into temptation, making love to Isabelle on the kitchen floor, while Théo fries eggs. At the end of their coupling Matthew discovers Isabelle was a virgin, or was she just experiencing her time of the month? The blood doesn't tell.The die is cast, and the two make love all over the apartment taking pleasure from each other in long stretches, heedless of the now forgotten Théo. Before long Matthew falls in love with Isabelle and her with him, but he cannot have her all to himself, because while Isabelle may well be in love Mathew, she is deeper in love with Théo; the twin may have never consummated tier attraction in the old fashioned way, but they are engaged in a every thickening dance of emotional incest...A lighting rod for controversy Bernardo Bertolucci is nonetheless one of the world's foremost directors. His predilection for exploring the carnal side of human nature in his films has brought him much ridicule and acclaim, but none can deny his brilliance as a director. Much criticism was heaped upon the cinematic shoulders of The Dreamers before its release because of the often raw depiction of nudity, sexuality and its underlying current of incest. Quite frankly after the initial titillation, I found the movie hardly erotic or proactive at all; it was in the end a film about exploration and awakening, both of sexual and political awareness. But all-n-all there was surprising little sex in The Dreamers.It is interesting that only Matthew seems to have any sense of morality, or common sense for that matter. It is the twins that draw him into their web of sexual gamesmanship and depravity; it is Isabelle who instigates the first sexual game, and it is Théo who cajoles Mathew into having sex with Isabelle; and it is the twins who seem to knock down all barriers in pursuit of pleasure to the exclusion of all else. Matthew is just along for the ride, the proverbial wide-eyed innocent and ignorant American.The performance by the three principle characters was nothing short of suburb. At first I did not care for Michael Pitt's portrayal of Matthew, but as the movie progressed I warmed to him. Eva Green's portrayal of Isabelle was masterful and brave, and all three actors deserve a round of applause for portrayals of characters that must have been hard to embrace given the morally charged material.If I have one criticism about the movie, it is that we really never gain a firm understanding as to why the twins are the way they are. Why the deep emotion connection; from what well did it spring? Is it their shared love of the cinema, or is it the close bound all twins share taken to a new level, flirting with physical incest, while fully embracing emotional incest?The ending coming abruptly as it did, let me feeling strangely unfulfilled. It's as if I wanted more; the voyeur in me wanted to continue to stare through the window of the trio's lives and see what came next. That to me is the measure of how good The Dreamers was and I suppose is.
S**H
good
good video
F**Y
Excellent film sauf indisponible en Blu-ray
Ça fait longtemps que je cherchais ce titre à bon prix! Finalement, eurêka mais inabordable en Blu-ray et je demande pourquoi? Eva Greene à son meilleur
E**T
Politics and Style
Watched on ten foot projection with headphones this is a real treat. Whilst the blu-ray (in 4k set) picture quality is immaculate it was the soundtrack, the gorgeous stereo soundtrack that completed the engulfment. Subtitles showed track title and singer as well as faithful dialogue text.Freedom is a much abused word. Here it resides with three students and two parents. But the first shot of the movie is in the tradition of Classics with original use of colour as it down scrolls to the first face we see: a Hollywood face. I thought it was Di Caprio or one of them.Fascinating to compare then (1968) with now (20whatever). They only had music and film. We have information overload but truth is safely hidden by those who are safe. Allowed. Then you could write yourself a tune and get the world to sing with you. Now, now no such thought even occurs.The Dreamers resonates with those movies part of them then. Images of threatening diffference. Godard et al. Smooth camerawork, careful colours, sizzling dialogue. This movie has Edge. Cut yourself on it.
S**O
Obligado para amantes del buen cine y de Eva Green
Maravillosa pelicula en una edición perfecta tanto en imagen como sonido. Me encanta el detalle de los subtitulos en la musica resultando mas evidente el simbolismo de esos temas con la historia de la peli. Tiene varios extras incluido entrevistas y como se hizo. Eva Green esta increible en este papel que creo que fue de los primeros en su carrera. Una pelicula para amantes del buen cine!!
A**ー
The Dreamers 4K UHD
EAN : 5051429990361版4Kはもちろん、Blu-rayも日本製プレイヤー(SONY UBP-X700)で再生できました。。音声、字幕ともに英語のみ。商品の写真にあるケース、カードは当方購入分には付属していませんでした。
G**A
I sognatori
Piccolo capolavoro di Bertolucci, avente il merito di aver lanciato Eva Green, che qui, appena ventenne, si mostra in tutto il suo splendore fisico. Il film è ispirato al romanzo di Gilbert Adair, che ne ha curato anche la sceneggiatura, e vede protagonista uno studente americano (Michael Pitt), in vacanza a Parigi, alle prese con due fratelli francesi, che lo coinvolgeranno in perversi giochi a base di cinema ed erotismo. Sebbene la pellicola riprenda solo la prima parte del libro, risulta comunque molto suggestiva, ed estremamente ben girata e sottolinea decisamente bene il clima di rivalsa di quegli anni, da parte dei giovani. Il secondo disco è pieno di extra, con interviste molto interessanti a Bertolucci e agli attori e un piccolo making of sul film. Il pacco è arrivato in perfette condizioni, e nel tempo prestabilito.
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