Powermatic 4+ Electric Cigarette Injector Machine

I received the Powermatic 4 as a gift in April 2022. Unfortunately I cannot accesss the persons account to leave a review so hopefully this will be accepted. I had the Powermatic 2 but it broke after 6 months. I was new to RYO and hadn’t yet learnt that the key to these machines lasting is not overfilling the chamber. Less is more. Every time it jams, it’s one step closer to breaking. You’ll hear the injector sound weak and if it’s really trying hard to inject the tobacco. Eventually it’ll sound exhausted and the injector will try its hardest but just won’t work anymore. After a few feeble attempts, it’ll make a couple hums and then sound stuck for good. For those interested, there are YT videos on taking them apart, cleaning and fixing them if you’re interested. So it is possible to fix them if you’re so technically inclined. I am not. So I bought another P2 and that one lasted over a year. Even so, you’d still save $ if you had to replace the machine monthly (P2 is $55) as the savings are astronomical. These machines are, to me, very affordably priced. $71 and under is a dang good price for what these machine do. I used to pay over $200 a month on packs of cheaper cigs (in 2021). Now I pay $35-40 a month for tobacco & tubes. If you buy them in bulk, it’s even cheaper. It’ll cut the cost by at least 35% maybe more. My friend purchased the Powermatic 4 as a present for me and I was elated. It’s smaller and lighter than the previous versions and definitely way more powerful. Comparing the two, the P4 sounds much stronger when it injects. I thought the P2 was great. This one is amazing! I can’t believe all these years I was willingly being ripped off by buying packs at the store. Even if you still want to buy packs for the times you're out and can’t roll one, having this to use when at home will still save you a lot of $. I clean the tobacco (I’m picky about this part so as to not jam the machine or poke holes in the tubes) and remove any sticks, etc before filling the hopper. Not all injector machines have such a nice big hopper so this is an added bonus. It’ll hold about a packs worth of tobacco depending on how tight you roll. I make sure to fill the ends and after the cigarette is done, I throw it-filter side down-very hard against the table once or twice. Do this before removing anything sticking out of the end. If you do it right, the end result is a cigarette that looks like it has been lightly packed and is not weak where the filter meets the tobacco. You can remove any tobacco sticking out if any. Again, less is more. If it’s not done correctly or not full enough at the end (near the filter), it’ll bend and you’ll have to empty and retry. Even though you’ve emptied them, these tubes are still good to use. If you have to empty it 3+ times, it will get weak and I wouldn’t bother w it. The best tubes I’ve found are Zen brand but everyone has their favorite. Throw it one more time for a harder pack and a slower burn. Try to throw it so the filter smacks the hard surface evenly and w force. On average, one of my king size cigarettes burns for 8 minutes. I make sure to keep the machine clean and do not use tobacco that is dry or has a lot of tiny particles especially the dust in the bottom of the bag. That’s bad for the machine. In case the dust gets inside the machine, there is a small mechanism that pushes it out as much as possible on the side. There’s only so much you can do but so far it’ll be 3 years in April that I’ve had this machine and I’m so happy (and grateful) that it’s lasted so long. I think it’s high quality and the best RYO machine you can buy for home use. I even travel w it! I’ve rolled on trains and buses and in public. I found that Boveda humidity packs (expensive but worth it!) or hydro stones (cheap but must be re-moistened 2-3x a week) help to keep the tobacco moist so there’s little waste. The only issue I’ve recently had is that sometimes the AC adapter doesn’t work. I have to fiddle w the cord a little. Eventually it’ll come on but I think it’s going out. It’s not the wall plug but the other end where it connects to the machine. I’m not sure if I can find another or a generic AC adapter of the same specifications would work? I’ll have to contact the seller. Even w the cord issue, I cannot recommend this any higher!! It’s a $ saver and so easy to use once you get the hang of how much tobacco to use. I will never go back to buying prepackaged cigarettes again. If you’re not sure if it’s worth it, PULL THE TRIGGER! You can always return it if you’re unsatisfied but you won’t be. I did read a few people received machines that were defective and I’m sure that occurs w everything so I can’t fault the seller as long as it’s returnable which it is.

I started with a basic powermatic years ago and updated to the 4 a while back. This is my second powermatic 4 because I wore out my other one after 3 years. After your first carton it pays for itself in savings over store bought. This machine prefers the cheaper pipe tobacco, I use Gambler Red and my smokes come out perfect. The finely chopped cigarette tobacco is more expensive and will jam in this machine. I make a pack of smokes in roughly 10 minutes with this machine. It’s fast, economical, and reliable. 20 cigs rolled a day for 3 years is a little over 21,000 cigarettes rolled. Not bad for the investment price of this machine.

I have used this for 60 days.. I have never had an issue. At least 1 pack a day. Much faster and consistent than the manual injectors. The only issue is I have not been able to get a full 100 mm cigarette. I use kings and very much satisfied.

For 100s, just pack the ends first. No issues if you use the right tobacco. I bought another automatic machine before this one that would not do 100s. Completely satisfied with this purchase, I've had it almost 4 months and it's worth the investment if you ask me. I've had no issues with the hopper, so much better than the manual machines, I can roll 2 cartons in about an hour, I started with a fine cut tobacco and had major issues. I switched to Golden Harvest ribbon cut tobacco and tubes and it's been smooth sailing ever since. This machine will most definitely do 100mm tubes with the ribbon cut tobacco, the moisture content of the tobacco used is also important. Me and my best friend switched from the manual topomatic to this and do not regret it for a second. We were both new to rolling your own, we roll about 6 cartons a month with no issues, it's quick and quiet, the only thing that could be any better is the powermatic 5 if you can afford that.

This machine worked great, but it only lasted for four months and I can't get it to work at all! I really like this cigarette maker, but if it only lasted for 5,800 cigarettes, it won't be worth the money!! I didn't abuse it at all, and I bought a new powermatic four plus since last week and it works great, but it sure doesn't compare to the three plus, as far as simplicity is concerned! I'm srill bummed about the three plus while I go through the return process! I really want to know what went wrong with my other virtually new machine! (Powermatic three plus) Chris M